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James Cham's avatar

Really enjoyed the bloomberg interview. Strikes me that accountability sinks is such a vivid metaphor that it crowds out the rest of the insights. What would be the vivid metaphor for the other insights?

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Mike Burrows's avatar

> But in my view, if there’s going to be any real chance of success for cybernetic ideas in the mainstream, it’s going to be based on the very simplest version

My next book (half-written) will be based on VSM but approached workshop-style. Most radically, the approach is not to model the organisation at all, which as Beer acknowledges in Diagnosing scales badly, and it privileges a singular viewpoint in a way that may not be helpful in a complex setting. Instead, in a participatory process, it uses VSM as a framework by which people make sense of their experiences of the organisation. Relational imbalances, shared constraints, and motivation for change bubble up through dialogue.

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