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Alexander Harrowell's avatar

People do "fully benefit" things all the time - a good example is the totally bullshit brief concocted to argue for a new royal yacht [or really, embarrass Tony Blair] back in 1996 which did things like totting up all the supposed exports and investments resulting from supposed events aboard the supposed yacht even though the real, non-supposed yacht had been used for this purpose for 2 (two) weeks of the 1980s. Even though it didn't work, this drivel was still circulating in 2023 and wasting people's time.

Another example from a different corner of the political spectrum is the habit of loading up any proposal with concocted second- or third-order benefits, so moving the bus stop comes with a £-number for the benefits to the NHS from greater active travel [i.e. it's further to walk] or to schools from exercise [i.e. it's further to walk so the kids are more shagged out and therefore less unruly or at least slower getting out of the way of the chalk].

As I was saying in another place, one reason why it would be great to have better estimates of simple first order things like "how many passengers will take the train" is that it would reduce the incentive to claim that any project must be the solution to all possible issues.

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Kalen's avatar

What's often left out in the business-scented discussions of efficiency in general is that it isn't a global property- it's inherently relative to a particular resource and output, and in the case of government the worthwhile output is actually something like 'resilience' or 'access in emergencies' that fundamentally entails excess capacity.

And fundamentally the efficiency hawks feel comfortable making these strafing runs at public institutions but would never dream of, say, taking a swipe at the ten-ply toilet paper and executive k-hole suite at the publicly traded companies that make up their portfolio. A small part of that reticence might even be sensible- capable organizations aren't capable because they put knockoff sodas in the vending machines, it's because they do their jobs. Now if only that logic could be extended to public services that have been bleed as a conservative moral imperative for forty years...

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