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There's also the polycrisis aspect. As well as opaque debt markets as in 2007, there's a massive stock market bubble as in 2000, a trilllion dollars in crypto now part of the mainstream financial system and the risk that the US will expropriate foreign bondholders a la Miran. The real question is why no one much is getting out.

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> It would be nice to know that this [flooding the zone with cash, public money and private loan forebearance] is now the standard operating practice for similar crises

Yeah, in that regard, another thing that really worries me in this context is how many sovereigns are skirting the very edge of what markets will bear in terms of their debt and income - which we can see because they have repeatedly had to pull back when they start to cross the line (Truss, TACO).

I hope your information management theory about the GFC vs Covid is right. An alternative view is that the GFC happened because a lot of people realised all at the same time that the current stock of wealth, and its future path of growth, had been grossly overstated. I note that current equity and debt valuations rest upon assumptions for the current and future paths of wealth that are ... chirpy.

The scenario that combines both my worry and your one is if the US Treasury were to default, or appear likely to, in a way the markets cared about. My understanding from people who know way more about the plumbing than I do is that the assumption that Treasuries are as good as cash is not just loadbearing but fundamental.

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